Yes, you are right: Jesus is THE Messiah in Qur’an 3:45 and is respected (I will not say loved) by Muslims. Jesus is, in the Qur’an, the only prophet who raised the dead. He is the only person elevated to God himself (not only to heaven). He is the only person born from a woman and the Ruh al-Qudus (the Spirit of the Holy = Syriac “Holy Spirit”) without intervention of a man. He is the only one who “created (khalaqa) out of clay the figure of a bird” and “blow upon it and it was a bird” (Qur’an 3:49 and 5:110) as God did. He is the only one “who healed who was born blind and the leper” (same references).
But, Jesus and th...

Yes, you are right: Jesus is THE Messiah in Qur’an 3:45 and is respected (I will not say loved) by Muslims. Jesus is, in the Qur’an, the only prophet who raised the dead. He is the only person elevated to God himself (not only to heaven). He is the only person born from a woman and the Ruh al-Qudus (the Spirit of the Holy = Syriac “Holy Spirit”) without intervention of a man. He is the only one who “created (khalaqa) out of clay the figure of a bird” and “blow upon it and it was a bird” (Qur’an 3:49 and 5:110) as God did. He is the only one “who healed who was born blind and the leper” (same references).
But, Jesus and the Apostles (hawariyyun) in the Qur’an are “Muslims”. The term “Masih” (Messiah) does not mean anything for the Qur’an, it is just a title, where for Jews and Christians it is meaningful. Jesus will come back on earth the Last Day to judge people, to break all crosses, kill the pigs and proclaim the only true religion: islam.
Christians in the Qur’an are called to believe in a Trinity constituted by Allah (God), Christ and Mariam (Mary). They deformed the teaching of Jesus, which was the teaching of Islam.
Yes, “Islam is the only religion to believe in both christianity & judaism as true messages once sent by God; although neither christianity nor judaism believe in Islam”. More: the Qur’an claim to believe in the Torah (Hebrew Bible) and the Gospel that God revealed before.
But, what is called Bible and Gospel is not what Jews and Christians call Bible, because they both deformed (harrafa, baddala) it. The true Torah and the true Gospel (Injil) are the Qur’an.
Yes, Jesus is seen as a great prophet.
But, then came Muhammad (Peace upon him!) the last prophet and “the Seal of the Prophets” (Qur’an 33:40: khatam an-Nabiyyin), to correct and compl

Everyone knows their holy book. Verse by verse. And each one believes theirs is true. But in reality, the relationship they believe they have with a god, is really with a book!

Can any believer gain as small as a simple answer from their god what they do not already know?

If I ask a thousand Muslims, Jews, and Christians each, "the proof of Fermat's last theorem; or the formula for determining the next prime from the last"...

...nary a single person could give an answer. Yet for a god, it should be so simple! WHY can't a god answer these, or any question which the believer does not already know?

The true faith? Simply ask the Muslims (they pray an awful lot) to ask their god a simple q...

Everyone knows their holy book. Verse by verse. And each one believes theirs is true. But in reality, the relationship they believe they have with a god, is really with a book!

Can any believer gain as small as a simple answer from their god what they do not already know?

If I ask a thousand Muslims, Jews, and Christians each, "the proof of Fermat's last theorem; or the formula for determining the next prime from the last"...

...nary a single person could give an answer. Yet for a god, it should be so simple! WHY can't a god answer these, or any question which the believer does not already know?

The true faith? Simply ask the Muslims (they pray an awful lot) to ask their god a simple question whose proof can be verified, that we don't already know.

Do the same for ALL the gods, or all the religions that claim theirs is the real deal. And see what answers come up. Simple!

The truth? Yes, we ALL know the truth. But only a few are brave enough to admit it. The truth will in fact set us free...mostly from ourselves.

Without the deity of Christ, there is no atonement or propitiation for sin.

This is a very subjective statement and a comment to make, won't you agree Ms jatfla?

Here is another comment, tell me what you think: There is no deity except God, the most beneficent, the most merciful. The Lord of the Day of Judgment.

If we equate sin with negative, bad, dark aspect of human psyche then we have to accept that aforementioned cannot exist without their opposite: love, light and positive. And if you agree with this, then you can see that both of these negative and positive qualities belong to God, hence, your statement "there is NO [atonement etc]" seems like contradictory in ...

Without the deity of Christ, there is no atonement or propitiation for sin.

This is a very subjective statement and a comment to make, won't you agree Ms jatfla?

Here is another comment, tell me what you think: There is no deity except God, the most beneficent, the most merciful. The Lord of the Day of Judgment.

If we equate sin with negative, bad, dark aspect of human psyche then we have to accept that aforementioned cannot exist without their opposite: love, light and positive. And if you agree with this, then you can see that both of these negative and positive qualities belong to God, hence, your statement "there is NO [atonement etc]" seems like contradictory in itself. The point is that both yes and no, negative and positive, sin and goodness, belongs to God.

Most likely I'm not making any sense, but I'll try anyway.

Here is another comment, tell me what you think: There is no deity except God, the most beneficent, the most merciful. The Lord of the Day of Judgment.

About 26,000 children die the horrific death of starvation EACH DAY. Does a beneficent merciful god hear their prayers?

Hundreds of innocent people get killed each year, (young, old, whatever), by suicide bombers who believes s/he's going to heaven by doing so. Does god hear their prayers?

If there was no god, would the outcome be any different?


If there IS a god, who is truly "the most beneficent, the most merciful"...would not the outcome be different?

It is apparent that one superstit...

Here is another comment, tell me what you think: There is no deity except God, the most beneficent, the most merciful. The Lord of the Day of Judgment.

About 26,000 children die the horrific death of starvation EACH DAY. Does a beneficent merciful god hear their prayers?

Hundreds of innocent people get killed each year, (young, old, whatever), by suicide bombers who believes s/he's going to heaven by doing so. Does god hear their prayers?

If there was no god, would the outcome be any different?


If there IS a god, who is truly "the most beneficent, the most merciful"...would not the outcome be different?

It is apparent that one superstition does not cancel out another.

Such a god would have long since told the Pope to stop hording billions stolen from the poor and use it, instead, to help them.

Such a god would have told the Pope to stop hiding and protecting the child molesting priests that terrorize trusting children.

Such a god would have long since told the suicide bomber that killing innocent people in his name is the lowest form of blasphemy that can be made. Can there be a greater insult to a loving creator deity than to kill his innocent children?

(What act could you perform if you were purposely TRYING to hurt such a deity in the worst way possible?)

And so, if there IS a god, would he not have educated these believers by now that self-serving ignorance is NOT a virtue?

Would a true believer believe any loving god would allow this, especially from his own followers?

How could either of you possibly believe anything you are saying?

Again I tell you; your relationship appears not to be with any god, but with a book.

And so I too pray, that one day each of you will put your books and your superstitions down, and extend a hand to each other as humans...for ALL our sake.

"If there was no god, would the outcome be any different?"

Yes. There would be no anything.

According to *traditional, orthodox Christianity*, Christ is the visible manifestation of the unseen God. Jesus Christ says that He "...and the Father are One" and alludes to His essence in other places. The deity of Jesus Christ and His substitutionary death for humanity are primary tenets of the *orthodox* Christian faith. If He is not who He said He was and He did not do what He said He was sent to do, then He is not a Savior or even a Prophet, but a liar. Believing His own testimony about Himself establishes one's Christianity/Salvation.

Since Christian doctrine has been distorted, supplan...

"If there was no god, would the outcome be any different?"

Yes. There would be no anything.

According to *traditional, orthodox Christianity*, Christ is the visible manifestation of the unseen God. Jesus Christ says that He "...and the Father are One" and alludes to His essence in other places. The deity of Jesus Christ and His substitutionary death for humanity are primary tenets of the *orthodox* Christian faith. If He is not who He said He was and He did not do what He said He was sent to do, then He is not a Savior or even a Prophet, but a liar. Believing His own testimony about Himself establishes one's Christianity/Salvation.

Since Christian doctrine has been distorted, supplanted, maligned, and rewritten...especially over the last 100 yrs., the original, simple Faith is often difficult to find; though the God of the Scriptures has said that He is easily found when one "searches for Him with all your heart".

"If there was no god, would the outcome be any different?"

Yes. There would be no anything.

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Supposing your underlying assumptions were true, it could not be the god to whom it was refered, as beneficent and merciful.

Would a Devil allow his own followers to commit atrocities in his name? Would a Devil allow innocent children to suffer horrific deaths of starvation while ignoring their deepest prayers? Would a Devil reward a follower, for killing the innocent with suicide bombs?

Are you sure your underlying assumption, that led you to a "yes," is correct? Because if you are, the truth of your conviction could never distinguish it from ...

"If there was no god, would the outcome be any different?"

Yes. There would be no anything.

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Supposing your underlying assumptions were true, it could not be the god to whom it was refered, as beneficent and merciful.

Would a Devil allow his own followers to commit atrocities in his name? Would a Devil allow innocent children to suffer horrific deaths of starvation while ignoring their deepest prayers? Would a Devil reward a follower, for killing the innocent with suicide bombs?

Are you sure your underlying assumption, that led you to a "yes," is correct? Because if you are, the truth of your conviction could never distinguish it from the nature of a Devil.

I mean no offense. But truly, how could anyone ever tell the difference? Either there would be none (difference), or there isn't one (a god).