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9-9-2007 7:01 AM
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The clip does not do the article justice. It was impossible to relay the horrors in such a short space. This is a two page article, that everyone with an iota of humanity left in them MUST read. The U.S Administration and the U.S Military are engaged in widespread, worldwide, systematic torture, abuse, imprisonment and murder!. This is the new USA and what is stands for. I am so sickened, disgusted, angry and I can't even begin to express the outrage I feel. It's sick!! Are you proud of yourself Mr Bush? How do you friggin' sleep at night?!? Geeez...

Bush and his fellow partners in crime, have to be removed from power and if there's an ounce of decency left in the citizens of the USA, these people must be stopped and held accountable for all the atrocities and crimes against humanity they have and continue to commit!


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9-9-2007 8:38 AM
tabsey
Bush will say he is proud of ...American way of life is preserved, free world secure blah, blah.
It won't come out for a long time because a country can't be seen to be proud of what has been done, when it is as evil and draconian as this.
9-9-2007 10:41 AM
davboz
Average stay 14.5 months. Lets hope they are careful who they're letting back out!
9-9-2007 11:11 AM
thisnamecantbetaken
Is that the only thing about the article that concerns you?? Why doesn't that surprise me...

You are a real <deleted insult here> davboz, you really and truely are.
9-9-2007 11:36 AM
cptenaud
We have lost our moral path. And it is starting to show
in our economy. Less jobs for real working people.
Because those jobs are outsourced to countries that
oppress their own people. And our corporations then
reduce pay or health care to Americans. Which is a
form of oppression of its own people.

Soon we will need to decide if we want to go along
with corporate ideals. Or do the right thing for all people.
I hope these atrocities wake people up. But I also
know how money can dull the senses. And out of sight , out of mind mentality does little to help what
is going on. That is why Clipmark is a good source
to bring the truth to the people.
9-9-2007 1:50 PM
kkcapricorn
Again I ask "Who are the terrorists?"
9-9-2007 2:17 PM
skwirlinator
Thanks for the mental images!
9-9-2007 2:18 PM
skwirlinator
It's like looking at life as a hemorrhoid
9-10-2007 10:30 AM
rwatuny
You know, Bush is just a figurehead.

These people are not tortured and killed by Bush.

They are killed by our brothers and sisters, our cousins, our children, our friends that are part of the military, the intelligence services, the government.

Just doing their jobs.
9-10-2007 11:58 AM
ColoradoRight
This is disgusting and a slur against the very people who stand on the battlements and keep the killers at bay. Only those who hate themselves and their country would believe this is representative of the people who put their lives on the line for you.

Your self-loathing and hate will consume you. You had just better pray every night that these brave people don't turn their backs in disgust and leave you to the horrors that the Islamofascists have in mind for you.
9-10-2007 12:29 PM
ericskiff
When the stories of Abu Ghraib prison started to emerge, I was reminded of Phillip Zimbardo's Stanford Prison Experiment.

His controversial experiment using ordinary college students, assigned randomly as prisoners and guards, demonstrated how easily a situation where people are deindividualized can bring out hidden and very ugly behaviors in both the agressors and those being 'victimized'.

Good prisons have checks in place for the mutal protection of the prisoners and the guards. They have exercises which serve to repersonalize both groups.

These people aren't just doing their jobs. They've been put in a situation with ...
9-10-2007 1:32 PM
ratilfar
Islamowhatsits????

By using that term, CR has just proven he doesn't know what the heck he is talking about. Corrupt wars create corrupt soldiers, that is the sad truth. Not all of them, but enough of them, to many by far.
9-10-2007 4:37 PM
cptenaud
And there was corruption and torture in Vietnam. The
American Government payed a good wage to their
Australian mercenaries. And they committed the most
ugly crimes against the people. I was there, and I was
witness to the atrocities.
9-11-2007 5:49 AM
thisnamecantbetaken
Australian mercenaries
True! They still are. Howard is one of Bush's staunchest allies. He has been as much Bush's poodle as Blair ever was.

The whole "normalisation of the unthinkable" regarding torture and they way the world just seems to turn a blind eye and/or accept the atrocities being committed by *our* side, is simply nauseating to me. I can't understand how anyone can defend it at all.

@ ColoradoRight:
650.000 people have died in Iraq and up towards 30.000 in Afghanistan. Just what minuscule percentage of these people do you think are the *islamofascists* (as you so oxymoronically call them) with "horrors in mind for me" and how many of them do you think are...
9-11-2007 7:05 AM
thisnamecantbetaken
Updated numbers:

At least 832,962 people have been killed, and
1,590,895 seriously injured in Afghanistan and Iraq

whereof

785,957 Iraqi CIVILIANS killed
and 1,414,723 seriously injured. (June 2007)

(Estimate of Iraqi civilian deaths is based on a study published in "The Lancet" in October 2006.)

More than 16 times as many people have been killed in these wars than in all terrorist attacks in the world since 1968.

(In comparison, Saddam Hussein killed appr. 300.000 people during decades of tyranny.)

Now, with systematic, worldwide and ongoing torture, (of children too) the lack of human rights, the lack...
9-11-2007 12:02 PM
cptenaud
We all need to see this clip. It gives a good picture of
our world and the media.

http://clipmarks.com/clipper/cptenaud/clippers/

Thanks to thisnamecantbetaken for this clip.
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