Thorne

Real Name: Terese H.
Location: High Desert, CA
Joined:12-17-2006
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About me
Eclectic, creative, intelligent, wise, naive artist and writer.
Hopeful, disillusioned, idealistic free-thinker.
Mom, partner, wife, widow, lover, friend, grandmother, minister, caretaker, daughter, sister, granddaughter.
Queer, spiritual pagan.

You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.
- Anne Lamott
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http://www.myspace.com/thornesplace
Why I use Clipmarks
I started here hoping for meaningful dialogue; an exchange of ideas with which to broaden my understanding of politics, religion, environment and most importantly the people and values that people base their beliefs upon. Although I have found a lot of rhetoric, sarcasm, and fools, I have also found a lot of wisdom, considerate communication and discussion that although occasionally heated, seems productive.
I admit I do enjoy witty comments, and snark, and am not above using these vehicles of expression myself, I try to see past these things to the heart of the issues.
I thoroughly enjoy the diversity of topics clipped and of people clipping.
Also, it's an interesting little microcosm.
Where to find me on the web







   
 
 
 
   
 
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Pinch Me!!!
Thorne
by Thorne  11-8-2008    1
 That's my Michael! Wow! He says it well!
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Troops are just expendables to this Government.
cptenaud
by cptenaud  7-5-2007   
 There have been many cases already of soldiers taking the lives of their family members. And then committing suicide afterward. If you were sent to Hell 3 and 4 times and seen the inhumanity of it. Would you not go insane?
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IRAQ - Coalition of the Billing
BobbyRutan
by BobbyRutan  7-4-2007   
 But critics worry that troops and their missions could be jeopardized if contractors, functioning outside the military's command and control, refuse to make deliveries of vital supplies under fire. Adding an element of potential confusion, no single agency keeps track of the number or location of contractors.
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Former General Wes Clark, Jr. wants to know if you've HAD ENOUGH!
thorswitch
by thorswitch  7-4-2007    2
 From his blog at the Daily Kos: Enough of seeing the Constitution trashed? Enough of the corruption? Enough of the war? Enough of the gutless response of our elected Democratic representatives? If you're answer is yes, he has a suggestion. Every week, starting this Sunday, he and his friend Cenk Uyger will be going to the corner of Veteran and Wilshire in West LA, and they're asking that people in other cities to hold similar one-hour protests in their local areas to help spread the message. Obviously, I can't go myself, but I'm hoping that by posting this, maybe one or two of you will decide to go or will pass it on to your own friends. A Clark notes in his full post (click the link below to read the whole thing), the government isn't listening to any of us at this point - and the only way to change that is to get large enough groups out making it clear they've had enough that the message can no longer be ignored.
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Deadliest quarter yet for US troops in Iraq
jklugman
by jklugman  6-30-2007   
 No Remarks
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HAARP Now Fully Operational
thisnamecantbetaken
by thisnamecantbetaken  6-30-2007    1
 Some say the controversial HAARP array in Alaska is a continuation of Tesla's experiments that used electricity to create super weapons and it's also said to be able to modify the weather. I wonder if the increase in noctilucent clouds lately, has anything to do with this? Rumours abound, but it's definitely worth checking out. "the most dramatic geophysical manipulation since atmospheric explosions of nuclear bombs." --- Moreover, effects from the reckless use of these power levels in our natural shield -- the ionosphere -- could be cataclysmic according to some scientists. The Military's Pandora's Box Angels Dont Play This HAARP
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Wake up America. The real terrorists are in our highest office.
cptenaud
by cptenaud  6-29-2007    11
 This is my blog. This is who I am. In Vietnam I was wounded three times. Almost lost my life twice. What I saw in Vietnam mirrors what I see now. The only difference was we were able to get out of Nam. I don't see us getting out of this situation. Not with the warmongers that we have stealing this country for themselves. The truth is obvious to people with common sense. I just don't see much of that in this country.
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We want More WAR, We want More WAR, NOW!
righthand
by righthand  6-24-2007    8
 A recent congressional resolution on Iran underscores the War Party's lock on the foreign policy 'debate'. Calling on the UN to bring charges of "genocide" against Iranian is yet another example of political pandering and congressional grandstanding that bears little, if any, relationship to reality.
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Training KILLERS. Dying to KILL! Familiar?
righthand
by righthand  6-22-2007    20
 Human beings, then, are not killers by nature. Political leaders, including our own, whose aim it is to further their political goals through violence, have recognized that this reluctance to kill, this foundational aspect of a human being’s moral identity, jeopardizes their ability to wage war effectively. Consequently, following the Second World War, warrior preparation – basic training/boot camp – was modified to shift its focus from acquainting soldiers with tactics and weaponry to rather sophisticated techniques of value manipulation, moral desensitization, and psychological conditioning, aimed at destroying/overriding the recruits’ moral aversion to killing. Second, the reality of combat is such that few men kill or are willing to die for ideology, issues of justice, god or country. What ultimately motivate soldiers to kill and to die in battle are personal honor, self-respect, and their loyalty and accountability to their comrades. {Stolen from Cptenaud}
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Cindy Speaks Out and Leaves the Dems
zasel
by zasel  5-28-2007    3
 Cindy Sheehan makes some excellent points in this open letter to Congress. The Democrats were put into power after 6 years of total Republican control of the House and Senate primarily because the voters wanted them to end this war honourably. They have the vast majority of the country on the side of ending the war and cutting off Bush's blank check. Now that they had the chance to do it, they flubbed it and gave Bush what he wanted with the suggestion of "wait 'til next time." The public, I sense, is tired of waiting, and they do not see why the Democrats folded like a house of cards when they finally have the power to do something towards bringing this war to a close.
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Iraq: a slaugterhouse
ekorstanje
by ekorstanje  5-28-2007    1
 I think it's safe to say Bush has triggered mass murder not democracy
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A Hero Tells How It Really Is
zasel
by zasel  5-28-2007    2
 This is a three page story that is enormously powerful. I could never hope to clip enough of it to give you the feeling of this piece. I urge you to go to the original URL and read it for yourself. It is a real eyeopener, and it is the least we can do for this hero.
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GI's in Iraq no longer True Believers
BobbyRutan
by BobbyRutan  5-27-2007   
 From the article: Safstrom, for example, comes from a thoroughly military family. His mother and father have served in the armed forces, as have his three sisters, one brother and several uncles. One week after the Sept. 11 attacks, he walked into a recruiter's office and joined the army. "You guys want to start a fight in my backyard, I got something for you," he recalls thinking at the time. But in Safstrom's view, the American presence is futile. "If we stayed here for 5, even 10 more years, the day we leave here these guys will go crazy," he said. "It would go straight into a civil war. That's how it feels, like we're putting a Band-Aid on this country until we leave here.
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What does Memorial Day mean to you?
k9riley99
by k9riley99  5-27-2007    1
 "On Memorial Day we need to stop and pay with sincere conviction our respects for those who died protecting and preserving the freedoms we enjoy, for we owe those honored dead more than we can ever repay."
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Iraq Planning for quick US pullout
willhelm
by willhelm  5-21-2007   
 No Remarks
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Beyond Intractability
thisnamecantbetaken
by thisnamecantbetaken  5-19-2007    2
 A free knowledge base on more constructive approaches to destructive conflict. In today's world of wars, some knowledge and understanding of how and why conflicts arise, and what we can do to solve them etc, can only be helpful. LOTS more at the site for all aspiring "peacemakers". .;)
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American Legion to Edwards
n2sooners
by n2sooners  5-16-2007    1
 No Remarks
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America’s Child Soldiers...food for thought
Newfman
by Newfman  5-15-2007    1
 Read full article at the link
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Mother's day 2007
AtlLiberal
by AtlLiberal  5-13-2007   
 It's time for a world shift in thinking. Mothers are half of the equation of grief that comes to families stricken with the absurdity of wars. We need to put aside our tribalism and pride. We need to adopt a culture of empathy and social responsibility. We must cast off narrow views of sectarianism. A life lost is a tragedy. War is a lack of imagination.
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NO PEACE! Israel loses sovereignty to the US.
BobbyRutan
by BobbyRutan  5-7-2007    4
 No Remarks
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Bush determined to prolong lost war (commentary by Joseph Galloway)
Hawkeye_84
by Hawkeye_84  5-3-2007   
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fascist America
mikebiology
by mikebiology  4-28-2007   
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Belive it Or Not!
DizzyDezzi
by DizzyDezzi  4-25-2007    1
 Umm...Okay...
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U.S. doesn't need 'elaborate lies'
debbyski
by debbyski  4-25-2007    12
 You tell 'em Jessica.
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Fascist America, in 10 Easy Steps
thisnamecantbetaken
by thisnamecantbetaken  4-25-2007    1
 This was a really good article, but a scary read and impossible to clip, so go read the whole thing. All this sort of talk really freaks me out, but we can't stick our heads in the sand. We have to keep demanding accountability and openness. It scares me, that more and more there seems to be warnings against this implied scenario. Are they all wrong and paranoid and silly and delusional? I think it's good to be a bit suspicious of everything the world's politicians are up to these days. I personally don't like the signs... Guantanamo and all that? The list is endless. Things are just not right IMO.
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If An Autonomous Robot Kills Someone, whose fault is it?
debbyski
by debbyski  4-25-2007    5
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James Coons - A Forgotten Soldier
arifsali
by arifsali  4-24-2007   
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Atheists In Foxholes Monument
Fracture
by Fracture  4-24-2007    2
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Losing Iraq
jklugman
by jklugman  4-22-2007   
 No Remarks
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The Iraq Money Trail
thisnamecantbetaken
by thisnamecantbetaken  4-18-2007   
  Cheney may be the most visible profiteer to those who find it difficult to follow the war on terror money trail, but many other members of the administration with insider knowledge set themselves up to profit early on as well. I never have been able to understand how war profiteers can enjoy their earnings. I think any profits from war should be funneled back into f.ex. providing equipment for the troops or post-deployment health care for the people (and families) who actually FOUGHT the war or for the civilians caught up in it all and to the people who actually paid the price! It's blood money, if you ask me.
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Iraq Has Two Virginia Techs Every Day
clipette
by clipette  4-17-2007    9
 I've been thinking this to myself privately but didn't wanna seem insensitive, but now that juan cole is with me I can raise the issue. This is not to say that you can really compare deaths and loss and grief, but its something to think about.
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154 DEAD, 271 INJURED
arifsali
by arifsali  4-17-2007    22
 No Remarks
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Air Force fills out Army ranks in Iraq
ekorstanje
by ekorstanje  4-15-2007   
 They are scooping the bottom of barel for troops
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Contractors in Iraq not accountable to anyone?
ekorstanje
by ekorstanje  4-15-2007   
 Full article worth the read at link
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Leo Tolstoy - Quotation
Socratoad
by Socratoad  4-9-2007    5
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Soldiers Going AWOL in Droves.
thisnamecantbetaken
by thisnamecantbetaken  4-4-2007    10
 No Remarks
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A monstrous war crime
Socratoad
by Socratoad  3-29-2007    8
 No Remarks
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Bush's New Moral Order
laceym
by laceym  3-27-2007    5
  Every moral tradition has a test for virtue that asks the agent to measure the rightness or wrongness of an option by asking, “What would you have others do unto you?”
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Demobilizing America
Socratoad
by Socratoad  3-26-2007    1
 A good read for those capable of reflection.. Its about getting off your collective asses and a willingness to be counted, not in the relative anonymity of the Internet world alone but also out where your neighbors might actually see you.
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Terrorized by 'War on Terror'
arifsali
by arifsali  3-25-2007    2
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